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 Posted: Mar 1, 2024 10:59AM
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Yes! I have a 94 Monte which was the first to come with 4 lights across the from from Rover? Either way, They are 2 spots and 2 fogs. Spots come on with the high beams only! 

 

As the fogs aren't really placed well to be all that helpful, I have replaced my fog lenses with spots. The pattern on the glass is different and the fogs have a metal "cup" inside that directs to beam down. Not sure if this is correct...or how it happened but here is how mine operate currently.

With lo-beams on and Fog switch on = One set of spots light.

With hi-beam on, fog switch on = All 4 spots are on.
Again, not sure that is meant to happen but it works perfect for me now that all 4 are spots. Som with my hi-beams on, I have 6 forward facing lights!!

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I appreciate everyone's thoughts, suggestions, and diagrams.  As it turns out everything works and while the book says the 35-year anniversary edition comes with four fog lights that is not exactly true.  All four lights can't come on at the same time,  it depends if you have your high beams up or down and how you have the other switches,  I'm still confused but it works.

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Hi Frogeye and Mini, I'm not certain from the snips you've shown on those wiring diagrams, but I have some that have the special separate pages that are JDM SPi specific that you are welcome to by email. Send me an email through contact info on file and I'll send you the whole set. Best, MSH

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So I was feeling a little better today so I thought I would tackle the fog light problems with the suggestions I've received.

So I have two fog light switches.  One that controls the front fog lights.  That switch is located to the right of the steering column.  RHD.  The switch that controls the single fog light in the rear is in the center above the heater along with other switches.  The front fog lights do not come on when I turn on the main beams unless I turn on the front fog light switch.  The front fog lights will not come on unless the headlights are on

Alex was correct with the wire colors.  Two are blue/yellow and two are blue/green.  All bulbs work if I plug them individually into the one good power source pigtail.

So I am again/still confused. A book that I have that describes my special edition says it comes with four fog lights.  So do I have two foglights and four headlights?

 Posted: Oct 13, 2023 05:22PM
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I have been under the weather for over a week now but once I'm better I'll follow these suggestions.

I appreciate everyone's help

Terry

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Ah the perils of guessing.

A 4-lamp car has two driving lights and two fog lights at the front.

There are two foglamp switches - one for the rear and one for the front.  Both are on the auxilliary switch panel between the door and the steering column.  The driving lights come on with main beam.

(Suzy had a Cooper 35 when I met her, and the Knightsbridge had the same setup).

All are on relays and are nominally permanent live supplied, though in later injection cars there are chunky fusible links to protect everything.

Fogs should have blue/green wires going into them and the spots should be blue/yellow.

 Posted: Oct 9, 2023 03:59AM
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I don't have the four lights across the grill but factory two. My lights come on when I pull the stalk on the column and when I put my high beams. My guess is the other two come on with the fog light rocker switch. Right now it turns on the two lights at the rear of the mini. We need to hear from someone who owns a unmolested factory four set up.

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I don't know the specifics, but am willing to make a guess.

Logically, they are powered from a single source since they are controlled by a single switch. Individually they light up but won't come on if all are connected. Four lights would be a fairly heavy electrical load, so they would be protected by a fuse or an overload protection device. A fuse would blow and need to be replaced, so it is more likely a protection device. (Sorry, it is early in the morning here so I can't think of the right term.) When such an overload device is overloaded by too much current, it switches off until the load is reduced and resets. If you have one, it may have worn out.

Four lights on one switch would also be a heavy load on the switch, so likely you have a relay that the switch controls to turn on/off the group of lights. It may have gotten weak with age and cuts out when heavily loaded. It may also work as a current limiting device. Your car may ahve several such relays (my mid 1980's Mini has one for its headlights).

I'd start by finding out which relay serves your driving lights. At one of the plug ends by the lights, find out the colour of the wires. There should be two wires for each light. One will be a ground and most likely a single colour. The other will be the supply wire with a different colour and have a trace line on it in a separate colour. Once you get that information, Fine the relays and search for a wire matching the colour code of the supply at the light plug. Verify your selection by connecting one light, turning it on and then disconnecting the supply wire at the relay.

Or, if you have a multi-tester, use the resistance setting to see which wire goes from the light plug back to the relays. (If you don't have a multi-tester, you need to get one!)

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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."

 Posted: Oct 8, 2023 09:15AM
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1996 JDM SPI, mini. It is a 35-year-old anniversary edition that came from the factory with four front fog lights. Only one of the four fog lights is working. There is a Pigtail coming out of each fog light with a black end. Each fog light plugs into a pigtail that has a white end where it receives power.  I’ve individually plugged the black pigtail into the one working pigtail with the white end, and the light comes on.  I’ve done this for all lights and they all work. I would think that the power source for all four lights comes from the same source. Am I missing something?
 
Thanks
 
Terry