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 Posted: Dec 20, 2019 05:51AM
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Originally Posted by jedduh01


Let me fix that for you. VTEC Minis == Seems everyone is building a VTEC Mini these days... But who is driving them?

Me! 
 


HA!    Thanks Brian = I know you do use your car! 
      but kind of ironic.. picture links failed...

 
My Vtec comment i think was sort of jaded... at CMU this past fall ~ 80 Total classic Minis gathered. TWO Vtec's were noticed by me.... had a  few great conversations with other participants and seems like every 3rd person was 'Building' a Vtec... 

Mabye one day vtecs will rule the miniworld! 
    Then we will really have conversations!


 Posted: Dec 19, 2019 02:33PM
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well. for us OLD folks.. I do NOT use facebook. utube or instagram.. or even have cell phone.. ( no cell service  here.. so I will deal with the trolls here on MM..very little interest in classic mini sales these days..

 Posted: Dec 19, 2019 12:30PM
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Originally Posted by jedduh01


Let me fix that for you. VTEC Minis == Seems everyone is building a VTEC Mini these days... But who is driving them?

Me! 
 

 Posted: Dec 19, 2019 09:01AM
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Bit like the facts of life.  if you dont like what you're seeing,its on you and you can typically will move other places to get your fill.

  I feel MM board is very out dated, and has not kept up with the times of true forums.
    Yes it has been a staple of North American mini ownership... but being linked and nicely provided by a vendor has kept many activiites taboo or wrong.  Then with the past years of non moderation.. or control, its allowed open doors chased away longtime users.

Today there are just so many other platforms to 'forums' on with your hobby too.

There are MANY other mini owners in the world that dont touch this place at all.  Even today hanging interests in these cars.
  the Classic population is getting older in North America and the Use of these Minis is dwindling...  (collectors not drivers)

There are now numerous other places for your automotive banter that hold much the same information.

Facebook ( is the devil) but the user opts in or out of those groups.
Instagram , Pictures, but ALOT of instant discussion come about
Youtube = Produced videos' on topics of current relevance

Other forums
 
Mk1 - Forum = ( agreed is very nicely run/ Moderated) and is very clean.. Very Europe oriented
Restoration mini = spun off from the dislikes of Mini mania form...
The Mini forum = UK oriented
Turbo Minis'  = Quiet but knowledgable
North American motoring == Has some classic talk, but they also advise = check MM locally..North American needs
Pelican parts =WIDE variety of converstaion. also Moderated.
Vetcminis' == Seems everyone is building a Vtec mini these days... But who is driving them?

and i know there are others... Times change we all adapt   it sucks to see the good times go away .. Like having kids.. It never can be the same it was....

 Posted: Dec 19, 2019 08:58AM
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Originally Posted by XRayActual
anyone caught not "playing nice" will earn a time out

we don't have separate boards for new MINI vs classic mini - it's all under one roof. Guys can argue as much as they want about what a real mini is - just "play nice" and remember some newer members here are just looking for help with the cars that they love.
Actually there are buttons on the forum made for exactly this purpose when you post a topic, but nobody seems to know they exist. 

 Posted: Dec 19, 2019 08:32AM
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I do not presume to speak for Steve.  However, I read his post differently from what several of you have posted in response.

While Mini vs MINI was a thing 15 to 19 years ago, that has really died.  It is not what drove people from this board.  Over the years we experienced a decade of trolls who drove wedges between members of this community.  Some of those trolls also posted misinformation and dangerous advice without stopping when warned.  We experienced a number of flaming A-holes who sniped at people without justification or mercy.  

This board belongs to our host and they can run it as they see fit.  However, when no one in authority intervened with the behavior here many, many good board members left.  Some continue to watch from a distance but the spirit of camaraderie and friendship is largely gone.  

I hope some of the older members begin posting again in response to the questions posted by new owners.  I hope the Mini and MINI members here continue to get along.  However, I doubt the board will ever be what it was.
Well said, Doug.
Re your last sentence: it is a bit like "you can never go home again", meaning home is never the same as when you left.
This is still my "Mini home".

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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 04:24PM
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What Doug said.  I've been here a long time.....and met many wonderful folks on this board.  Even a few dozen in person at Mini Meets.
When there is ZERO control, and idiots run rampant that just irks me to no end.  I can't get past that.
Like Steve I have come and gone (not 5 yrs but certainly 5 months at a time) hoping someone...anyone....at MM would intervene
or grant privileges to a small group of moderators.

 Some 'Back and forth' and a few snide remarks or whatever do not offend me (or most folks I think).  It's the daily/weekly whatever
that Doug mentions that transformed this board into the remaining shell of its former self (per Steve's comments)

At the moment, things are calm, but all it takes is one.

If you're not helping, then...….

Mike
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Originally Posted by dklawson
I do not presume to speak for Steve.  However, I read his post differently from what several of you have posted in response.

While Mini vs MINI was a thing 15 to 19 years ago, that has really died.  It is not what drove people from this board.  Over the years we experienced a decade of trolls who drove wedges between members of this community.  Some of those trolls also posted misinformation and dangerous advice without stopping when warned.  We experienced a number of flaming A-holes who sniped at people without justification or mercy.  

This board belongs to our host and they can run it as they see fit.  However, when no one in authority intervened with the behavior here many, many good board members left.  Some continue to watch from a distance but the spirit of camaraderie and friendship is largely gone.  

I hope some of the older members begin posting again in response to the questions posted by new owners.  I hope the Mini and MINI members here continue to get along.  However, I doubt the board will ever be what it was.

  ~ 30 minutes in a Mini is more therapeutic than 3 sessions @ the shrink. ~

  Mike  Cool  NB, Canada   

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 02:57PM
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I do not presume to speak for Steve.  However, I read his post differently from what several of you have posted in response.

While Mini vs MINI was a thing 15 to 19 years ago, that has really died.  It is not what drove people from this board.  Over the years we experienced a decade of trolls who drove wedges between members of this community.  Some of those trolls also posted misinformation and dangerous advice without stopping when warned.  We experienced a number of flaming A-holes who sniped at people without justification or mercy.  

This board belongs to our host and they can run it as they see fit.  However, when no one in authority intervened with the behavior here many, many good board members left.  Some continue to watch from a distance but the spirit of camaraderie and friendship is largely gone.  

I hope some of the older members begin posting again in response to the questions posted by new owners.  I hope the Mini and MINI members here continue to get along.  However, I doubt the board will ever be what it was.

Doug L.
 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 11:54AM
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back and forth banter is fine - when it's one sided and harsh, that's elitism and that's "not nice"

 

be nice or be gone

*offenders will be removed*

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 11:29AM
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hey mokehead.. interesting point. say about the year 2000.. 25 year rule takes you back to 1975.. not all that much to pick from as far as great, intriguing, unusual cars to import except Minis.. flash forward to 2020... 2020 minus 25 takes you to 1995.. lot of very interesting cars made in early 90s in Japan now legal here. 

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 11:27AM
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message boards are the quintessential place for this type of car banter.

quintessential = most perfect or typical example...

p.s.. has anyone answered the question about the picture of those two cars.

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 11:26AM
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cooper tune TIME changes all... cars come and go like ex wifes /girlfriends.. some good. some are horrible   lots of folks have sold off their classic minis and moved on. the latest Japanese import to make the wife happy..Scammers and con man have really hurt our passion over the years here at MM  feliz navidad

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 11:22AM
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just be nice about it

I can call my friends names, poke fun at their mustangs - but I wouldn't do that to some random guy at a car meet that I don't know. Not everyone that owns a MINI or Mini are car guys

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 10:45AM
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This is what car guys do. poke, prod, make fun of.  This goes back decades.. Ford vs. Chevy, Mustang vs. Camaro.  Mopar vs. everyone else.. imports vs. domestics and now electric vs hybrid vs ICE engines and yes, even real Minis vs fake Minis and Mokes vs, ummm. Chokes.  As a test please point out which of these cars is a real Mini.

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 08:53AM
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Let's hope so.  I am a newbie and have already received useful info and encouragement- Thanks.  There are too many trolls in this world. Not just here but on the other boards I frequent.  Sometimes it amounts to a 'religious' war- on the boating forums it is the single versus twin debate and don't ever start a discussion about correct anchoring methods..... Here it seems to be LHD v. RHD; Mini v. MINI.    Those who are passionate just aren't going to be moved.  My Mini has been converted to LHD- do I care? Well, since I am left handed, I might be better able to manage the mysteries of the magic wand if it were RHD but otherwise no. I have had both and it just doesn't matter to me.  This is, as my mother would say, a first world problem.  Trick is to just not rise to the bait- and it is bait. Life is too short. Separating the boards between Mini/MINI may make sense for other reasons but not sure it makes for a kinder gentler world.  

Best Wishes to all and may your Mini/MINI of whatever variation run smoothly and rust free in the new year.

Kim

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 08:34AM
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anyone caught not "playing nice" will earn a time out

we don't have separate boards for new MINI vs classic mini - it's all under one roof. Guys can argue as much as they want about what a real mini is - just "play nice" and remember some newer members here are just looking for help with the cars that they love.

 Posted: Dec 18, 2019 07:37AM
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I first came here after retiring and becoming Mr. Mom for my 2 month old son. In my spare time I visited here
often and was able to move a $40,000 collection of MK 1 parts from a 30 year hobby. I built a classic mini on
the pages of this board. Sharing pics and text from bare shell to complete car. At that time there was a great
group around the world with a common interest and good will toward each other. One could ask for a part and
have three offers in no time at all. The same with offering something for sale. And then along came a disruptor
some one good with a computer and no respect for anyone. Things were said people started acting unkindly
toward each other. Many tried to change the tone but that was not to be. I'm not proud of how I behaved and
as a result I closed my computer and did not return for 5 plus years. When I did return there was this Tony guy
once again a disruptor in our mists. I survived that by following a simple rule. If I saw a post he had replied to
I did not open it. I have come to the conclusion there are people out there who need the attention, maybe it's
something in their past or who knows.? Maybe it's time to let Jim and the new MINI group have this place and
move to the MK1 board where that crap is not allowed. I think it's to late to save the board no longer enough
people here who care. Just what I think. Steve (CTR)

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