New Hinges

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Hinges are new (Ashwater) and do seem to be metric (10mm nuts/ 6mm studs).
The following is not a comment about you but about the maker/seller.

Metric?  Really?  What a terrible thing to do when almost all the other fasteners on the car are either inch or BA.  The hinges in particular are a terrible place to make such a change.  The nuts, screws, and studs that secure the Mk1/2 hinges have a reputation for rusting and for being difficult to reach and remove.  Since no one is going to expect metric fasteners they will struggle more than usual trying to find sockets to fit those fasteners in difficult to reach areas.  

I suggest when you fit these metric fasteners you load them up with Loctite for the fixed bits and a liberal slather of anti-seize compound for the nuts and screws.  A little bit of messy work now might save you a headache in the future.

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You can make you own angle spaces by hack sawing a nipple (plumbing). Wouldn't want you to think of the other.

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Thanks. 
Hinges are new (Ashwater) and do seem to be metric (10mm nuts/ 6mm studs). Thankfully they are well marked for position (RHT, RHB, LHT, LHB).  No votes for lock washers or nylocs?  Any easy way to address hole creep or am I  looking at welding something inside the A panels  Doors themselves are fine) and redrilling?  Probably outside my current skill set.  Guess I'd better get good at adjusting as required.....
Kim

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If you have completely disassembled the hinges to replace the pins and bushings, you will find the parts are matched as pairs.  There are numbers cast into the back side of each part.  .  To see what number goes with what read the 2nd post in the thread linked below.
//www.theminiforum.co.uk/forums/topic/193234-mk1-door-hinges-positions/

Also... all these fasteners are inch/SAE (1/4-28 UNF).  None are metric.  Common 6mm bolts have a 1mm pitch and will appear similar to the inch fastener but they are smaller.

Doug L.
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The Bane of having a Mk 1. 

Hardware lineup .    From the Forward part of the hinge.  to the back (door end)

Short stud  / Long stud /  Flathead screw (goes in the door jamb to hide in the rubber door seal) / Short stud.
  Same for all hinges. 

Hinges are angled for top and bottom..
  You can also use hinge to body gaskets or Hinge to door gaskets to space the hinges and doors accordingly.


The ' loose' holes will only cause issues.. No matter what =  the 1/4 screws  x  4 only support the door so well.. you can align them great  snug everything down but after use + driving the bolts will slide and the door will 'Sag"   the loose holes let this happen.
 
You have to be careful too with the torque on the front shortest stud = there is not alot of 'meat' in the hinge for the studs to really go tight.
   The more effort that the body holes fixed and are tight in alignment will hold the studs in place   in turn don't allow sagging or moving with the studs   the doors will stay UP longer and in the opening best.

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Morris Mk1.  I am replacing the external door hinges.  Prior Owner really did a bodge job (including cross threading a SAE stud into a metric hole) So while one or more might have been salvageable it is just best to start over.  The hinge hardware kit has 4 long studs; 8 short studs; 4 short philip's head bolts; 16 flat washers and 16 nuts.   Any preferred layout?  My best guess is 4 long ones go in the forward most holes; the 8 short go in hole 2 (from the front) and Hole 4.  The philips head go in hole 3 on the door lip.  Note that no lock washers were included?  Nor are any of the washers tapered as I have seen referenced?  Should I be looking at Nylocs? Locktite?  All the panel holes are pretty stretched.  Any tips on getting things good and tight and the doors properly adjusted?  Hate to be pulling the new door cards out any time soon.... Thanks in advance for wisdom offered. 
Kim