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 Posted: Oct 24, 2018 04:28PM
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verto arm seems too stout to bend.

anyways my client has decided to drive it till it craps out.

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 Posted: Oct 24, 2018 10:49AM
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do you think a worn ball would have the clutch releasing at the floor?  It's really at the floor.
Yep. It doesn't take much wear (or bending of the arm) to render the clutch useless. Mine's pre-verto, but this tiny crack is all it took. [link]

 

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 Posted: Oct 24, 2018 06:37AM
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Metric bolts.
Mini Sport sells one that fits both types if not available here.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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 Posted: Oct 24, 2018 05:38AM
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Bolt circle.

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 Posted: Oct 23, 2018 03:31PM
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steve,
 what's the difference in the two pullers?

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 Posted: Oct 11, 2018 02:59PM
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Yes I make my own pullers out of 1 inch steel plate, and have one for each. Steve (CTR)

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 Posted: Oct 11, 2018 11:32AM
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Acorn NUT lets not fall short on this road side repair LOL

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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 Posted: Oct 11, 2018 10:47AM
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Quote:
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do you think a worn ball would have the clutch releasing at the floor?  It's really at the floor.
Yes absolutely. There is no adjustment on a verto clutch unlike the earlier non verto ones. When on a trip once i lost the clutch and i was able to put an acorn nut on the end of the slave rod which gave me the extra throw i needed, some owners replace the rod with an adjustable one i replaced the arm when i got home and it was good to go.
The acorn has to be one of the best "found the parts on the road" repairs I have ever heard of, hehe well done!

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 Posted: Oct 11, 2018 09:55AM
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Does anyone have a separate clutch puller tool for each clutch?  Verto and Pre Verto?

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 Posted: Oct 11, 2018 04:03AM
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I'm sure the bolt circle for verto is different from the diaphragm type and the bolts are metric. Steve (CTR)

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 08:51PM
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and for your amusement, here's the slave rod I just took off my pickup and replaced with a new one.

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 03:09PM
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Originally Posted by Minimike1
do you think a worn ball would have the clutch releasing at the floor?  It's really at the floor.
Yes absolutely. There is no adjustment on a verto clutch unlike the earlier non verto ones. When on a trip once i lost the clutch and i was able to put an acorn nut on the end of the slave rod which gave me the extra throw i needed, some owners replace the rod with an adjustable one i replaced the arm when i got home and it was good to go.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 12:39PM
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Very much so - the Verto clutches seem to wear the pins and balls much faster than the diaphragm clutches.  Add up all the wear and the pedal will be on the floor.
It's more likely to be an accumulation of that than a worn out plate.  Easie to fix too. 

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 09:16AM
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do you think a worn ball would have the clutch releasing at the floor?  It's really at the floor.

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 09:13AM
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A friend's car has a verto clutch. Pedal is right at the floor on release. Aside from bleeding the air, is there any adjustment? 

AND,  Will the non verto flywheel puller work on the verto clutch?  Or different tool needed?
Before you look at the clutch check the arm for wear on the ball end.

If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.

Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 05:54AM
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I think the PCD of the bolts may be slightly different as well as the thread.

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 05:31AM
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thanks.   I can get the bolts, I've got the old style puller.

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 Posted: Oct 10, 2018 05:22AM
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No differing adjustments in a Verto vs a pre Verto.

 Check for wear in all the pivot joints.

Flywheel tool will work.  only difference will be the 3 bolts that thread into the flywheel.

   Early Verto flywheels are a Coarse thread bolt into the flywheel x3
 Verto-   Late = Fine thread 3/8th (i believe)  (new flywheel puller tools come with both bolts in the tool set,.

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 Posted: Oct 9, 2018 04:54PM
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A friend's car has a verto clutch. Pedal is right at the floor on release. Aside from bleeding the air, is there any adjustment? 

AND,  Will the non verto flywheel puller work on the verto clutch?  Or different tool needed?