'68 E-Brake adjustment mystery
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Oct 8, 2018 10:56AM | mediumcool | |
Oct 8, 2018 12:53AM | Alex | |
Oct 7, 2018 02:35PM | mediumcool | |
Oct 7, 2018 01:43PM | 1963SV2 | |
Oct 7, 2018 09:51AM | malsal | |
Oct 7, 2018 06:35AM | mediumcool | Edited: Oct 7, 2018 06:36AM |
Sep 30, 2018 02:02PM | mediumcool | |
Sep 30, 2018 12:31PM | Alex | |
Sep 30, 2018 09:47AM | Dan Moffet | |
Sep 30, 2018 03:00AM | Alex | |
Sep 29, 2018 11:26AM | Dan Moffet | |
Sep 28, 2018 07:08PM | Cheleker | |
Sep 28, 2018 06:02PM | tothefloor | Edited: Sep 28, 2018 06:26PM |
Sep 28, 2018 07:25AM | mediumcool | |
Sep 28, 2018 12:07AM | Alex | |
Sep 27, 2018 01:35PM | mediumcool | |
Sep 27, 2018 01:15PM | Dan Moffet | |
Sep 27, 2018 10:20AM | mediumcool | |
Sep 27, 2018 12:04AM | mediumcool | Edited: Sep 27, 2018 12:04AM |
Sep 26, 2018 11:26PM | Minimike1 |
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The '68 is an automatic with only a neutral gear, no park.
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If I were to play a recording back, on second thought, he probably meant the hand brake is not where you adjust the brakes. He was
super busy that day at the shop. I was talking about the over-all adjustment process including the hand brake and he probably thought the subject was only on the rear brake adjustment. So my quote is not admissible, strike that. He most-likely meant: "Never adjust the hand brake as a solution for excessive pedal travel. Only adjust at the shoes for that.
Mystery solved.
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Then I pulled up the hand brake three clicks (could not click a 4th time) and tried to hand-spin the wheel. I could easily spin the wheels at three clicks even with the brakes adjusted correctly.
I adjusted each rear wheel separately (hence the two cables) at the hand brake until I could no longer turn the wheel with the hand brake applied (makes sense).
I then released the hand brake and the wheel returned to the one and one-half revolution of free spin adjustment.
I did that and the brakes are working fine and I have solid hand brake at two clicks and pedal height feeling correct now.
My expert told me never to adjust the hand brake, but then why is it adjustable?
The mystery is, why he told me never to adjust the hand brake. This guy knows everything about Minis.
You Guys do tend to obsess over unnecessary detail.... 2,3 or 4 clicks is not important. I suggest that as long as its not 1 or 9 then whatever is OK... its just handbrake lever travel you're playing with. Its more about getting the tension (in the cable) even when applied rather than worrying about the amount of travel.
Cheers, Ian
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If in doubt, flat out. Colin Mc Rae MBE 1968-2007.
Give a car more power and it goes faster on the straights,
make a car lighter and it's faster everywhere. Colin Chapman.
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Then I pulled up the hand brake three clicks (could not click a 4th time) and tried to hand-spin the wheel. I could easily spin the wheels at three clicks even with the brakes adjusted correctly.
I adjusted each rear wheel separately (hence the two cables) at the hand brake until I could no longer turn the wheel with the hand brake applied (makes sense).
I then released the hand brake and the wheel returned to the one and one-half revolution of free spin adjustment.
I did that and the brakes are working fine and I have solid hand brake at two clicks and pedal height feeling correct now.
My expert told me never to adjust the hand brake, but then why is it adjustable?
The mystery is, why he told me never to adjust the hand brake. This guy knows everything about Minis.
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Mine Mini guy told me: "Don't touch anything, but bring her in next week and we'll sort it". All the other mechanical work was
done there so that is probably a good idea for me.
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Seriously, you're wrong.
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(I'd find a new authority.)
Sort of nearly but not quite.
The handbrake (or e-brake for the colonial types) has no effect at all on how far the rear shoes retract, that is controlled by the adjusters on the back plate. When the rear brakes are adjusted it affects the footbrake and the handbrake. Other than a slightly longer pedal, the first sign of the rears needing adjusting is the handbrake coming up more than three clicks.
With the rears adjusted correctly the handbrake cable(s) may need to be adjusted depending on how worn the shoes are to obtain three-click engagement, but usually is left alone.
Go and dismantle your brakes, play with them a bit, have a rethink, then come back.
That's how I know how they work.
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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."
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(I'd find a new authority.)
Sort of nearly but not quite.
The handbrake (or e-brake for the colonial types) has no effect at all on how far the rear shoes retract, that is controlled by the adjusters on the back plate. When the rear brakes are adjusted it affects the footbrake and the handbrake. Other than a slightly longer pedal, the first sign of the rears needing adjusting is the handbrake coming up more than three clicks.
With the rears adjusted correctly the handbrake cable(s) may need to be adjusted depending on how worn the shoes are to obtain three-click engagement, but usually is left alone.
Go and dismantle your brakes, play with them a bit, have a rethink, then come back.
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(I'd find a new authority.)
Sort of nearly but not quite.
The handbrake (or e-brake for the colonial types) has no effect at all on how far the rear shoes retract, that is controlled by the adjusters on the back plate. When the rear brakes are adjusted it affects the footbrake and the handbrake. Other than a slightly longer pedal, the first sign of the rears needing adjusting is the handbrake coming up more than three clicks.
With the rears adjusted correctly the handbrake cable(s) may need to be adjusted depending on how worn the shoes are to obtain three-click engagement, but usually is left alone.
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"Hang on a minute lads....I've got a great idea."
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I am off to the show in the morning. I also have a wood block recommended by the Aussie
Mini mechanic I met there the last time. I am over-cautious, but just in case.
I would check this myself but I’m on vacation in Texas
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I am off to the show in the morning. I also have a wood block recommended by the Aussie
Mini mechanic I met there the last time. I am over-cautious, but just in case.
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(I'd find a new authority.)
Sort of nearly but not quite.
The handbrake (or e-brake for the colonial types) has no effect at all on how far the rear shoes retract, that is controlled by the adjusters on the back plate. When the rear brakes are adjusted it affects the footbrake and the handbrake. Other than a slightly longer pedal, the first sign of the rears needing adjusting is the handbrake coming up more than three clicks.
With the rears adjusted correctly the handbrake cable(s) may need to be adjusted depending on how worn the shoes are to obtain three-click engagement, but usually is left alone.
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I am finding out how to take advice, but sift it out and keep the gold.
Everyone I am finding has some good advice and I only recently stopped
calling my Mini a "Mini Cooper" so a lot is due to my learning curve.
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(I'd find a new authority.)
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Also, I was wrong about the new brakes. I received what I assumed were used shoes in a box when I bought it and probably assumed they were the old ones. Now that I see them, they seem to be new ones ready to be installed. So my facts are probably not straight and I apologize.
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