73.5mm piston issues
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Fellow Minoids, OK, now I figured out what these over-sized pistons are. They are AE #18463 Triumph Spitfire pistons for a 1296cc engine from 1967-72. They are low compression, which would work out if I put a turbo on the engine. Still undecided. I need to measure the dish but I am guessing maybe 9cc and most likely 11cc. They are 2.900 inches. 73.67mm. Now I need to find a good gasket and some standard rings. Suggestions?
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Of course not! It's just now, the available head gaskets make it mandatory!
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We have always offset bored, even in the old days. it's nothing new.
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so are you looking for an A or A+ block?
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Oh yes! Boring to 1380 on bore centers leaves only .097inch wall thickness between 2 & 3!! In the "old" days, head gaskets were good enough to work! Now we 'off-set' bore to achieve about .115 inch between cylinders and that works fine up to full race compression.
You will give up an easy 10-15% of your power and torque if you go back to std or + .020....
You will give up an easy 10-15% of your power and torque if you go back to std or + .020....
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The number on the casting is 18463 they are AE pistons. I would only need one as three pistons are ok. I need rings too obviously. I was looking at the gap between cylinders 2 and 3 and it is damn small, maybe less than a 1/4 inch. I don't think a gasket will seal there. Still leaning toward liners, bored and honed to fit my .020 pistons I already have. Total machining cost labor and liners $440. Then I could just sell my new in the box 73.5 pistons.
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Consider using forged pistons... Your machinist may find the looser fit acceptable for forged pistons, which have to be set up, um, looser! If your numbers are right on, then you have .0063 piston to wall, acceptable for forged pistons.
Any markings on your "2.9"" pistons? Someone must have made them!
Any markings on your "2.9"" pistons? Someone must have made them!
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Probably the same source as your mechanic but try LA sleeve for the liners they will custom make them if needed and pretty reasonable on the price to.
https://www.lasleeve.com/
https://www.lasleeve.com/
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It is not an S block, but later 1275 block. My machinist said he could do the liners. He also has a source for liners but I wonder if a source in the UK that does this thing as routine would be better.
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If it's an S-block then liners are a good idea to reclaim some profitable scrap metal, something that is becoming increasingly popular over here as the straight-to-1380 brigade are finding out. If it's a normal block, then it would almost certainly be cheaper to find another core.
If our hosts don't carry big liners, then it's worth contacting Keith Calver //www.calverst.com or Classic & Modern Engine Services //cmesuk.com/ as they both are known to sleeve 1380s back to normal.
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At 2.9" bore you are past the size for factory type liners (O.D. 2.875", 73mm) which would work with std or +.020" bores. Oversize non-mini specific liners can be found to sleeve your block and will have suitable wall thickness to use your +.020" pistons. If this is an S block, sleeves may also stiffen it up, a good thing.
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Fellow Minioids, I am back at it with this problem. I have an over-bored 1275 block that currently has 2.900 pistons in it. They are not in good enough shape to reuse. I also have a set of brand new 73.5mm pistons which comes out to 2.8937 inches. My machinist says they are too small. Now I am thinking of sleaving the entire block and going to .020, which I also have new pistons for. Thoughts?
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